tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1096222976291203462.comments2023-04-01T10:51:43.447-04:00The Savage's LairThe Savagehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15906014150752232747noreply@blogger.comBlogger246125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1096222976291203462.post-92071910797305346512014-05-27T12:05:35.078-04:002014-05-27T12:05:35.078-04:00I viewed the entire video series and, although the...I viewed the entire video series and, although the goal of training your children to be motivated by the value of relationships, rather than the fear of punishment is laudable, this does not necessarily lead to a) the conclusion that corporal punishment, properly deployed, is ineffectual in support of that object, or b) adoption of the training method of choice-absolutism that Danny Silk presents as authoritative.<br /><br />Silk presents some very clever examples of how to outwit your child into making the right choice, by leading the child to recognize that they will thereby obtain a result that makes them happy. The natural way of a child is to seek his own happiness, and Silk's method may make a child adept at making choices that serve this self-interest, but I don't see how this leads to a heart that is motivated by the love of virtue, or to conviction that will prevail when temptation or persecution offers a choice of pain for faithfulness and pleasure for default. <br /><br />As the reviewer points out, Silk does not rigorously (or even non-rigorously, from what I observed) interpret scripture with other scripture to establish his thesis. However, I am less disturbed by Silk's de-emphasis of biblical chastisement -- because of the real needs of adoptive or foster parents to have an alternative that won't result in the State taking away their children -- than I am alarmed by the thin reed of scriptural support for the methodology that Silk claims fulfills a scriptural imperative. That method is giving choices to your children about everything.<br /><br />Throughout the video series, I kept waiting for Silk to clarify that his choices uber alles method was not intended for very young children, and should be introduced progressively in proportion to the child's increasing maturity. I waited in vain. Tragically, well-meaning parents who follow this approach will be training their child to falsely believe that he possesses wisdom and autonomy that he does not actually possess, and will find themselves, in due course, with children who are wise in their own eyes, of whom the Bible says, "...there is more hope for a fool." Considering the currency that "Loving Our Kids On Purpose" has in the churches, it is sickening to contemplate the harvest from these seeds.Larry Nasellihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04788077287521193463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1096222976291203462.post-59789945677444680262013-01-12T23:44:42.586-05:002013-01-12T23:44:42.586-05:00You might like to go back and read the book he say...You might like to go back and read the book he says he worked with foster parents who were unable to spank and needed help getting through to their foster child. He and his wife have 1 daughter and 2 sons. Wonder what else you missed while skimming. My family of 6 has changed dramatically under the guidance of his books and videos. From my 2 year old up to my 14 year old. Its amazing what can happen when you quick punishing and start allowing consequences. Oh and he does believe in spanking when appropriate. Reread the book. Watch the videos.Angiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09073642924854896418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1096222976291203462.post-9638261230407608952013-01-12T23:44:06.309-05:002013-01-12T23:44:06.309-05:00You might like to go back and read the book he say...You might like to go back and read the book he says he worked with foster parents who were unable to spank and needed help getting through to their foster child. He and his wife have 1 daughter and 2 sons. Wonder what else you missed while skimming. My family of 6 has changed dramatically under the guidance of his books and videos. From my 2 year old up to my 14 year old. Its amazing what can happen when you quick punishing and start allowing consequences. Oh and he does believe in spanking when appropriate. Reread the book. Watch the videos.Angiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09073642924854896418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1096222976291203462.post-85912626350412878292013-01-04T22:47:38.138-05:002013-01-04T22:47:38.138-05:00I love this picture. And I love you both. I love this picture. And I love you both. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02687261830609861986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1096222976291203462.post-1977930303989483512012-12-27T01:21:40.985-05:002012-12-27T01:21:40.985-05:00Just in the event that friends wander here from th...Just in the event that friends wander here from the FB group:<br /><br />I have been contemplating leaving the group for months. I spend *entirely* too much time on FB (largely in that group). I did not leave because of the post/comment I just ranted about, it was simply the impetus I needed to click the "Leave Group" button tonight. *shrug* Love you guys!The Savagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15906014150752232747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1096222976291203462.post-40398791078571469292012-12-21T13:43:09.270-05:002012-12-21T13:43:09.270-05:00And here I am, almost a year later, finally doing ...And here I am, almost a year later, finally doing it, LOL.The Savagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15906014150752232747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1096222976291203462.post-29783577883409329352012-06-23T12:48:47.933-04:002012-06-23T12:48:47.933-04:00Both of those were excellent. I especially appreci...Both of those were excellent. I especially appreciated her post about confessing. <br /><br />I also really like her covenantal approach to parenting. I really do think grasping the Covenant and its meaning for our children totally up-ends the parenting paradigm prevalent in so much of Evangelicalism (and stomps all over the Fundamentalist one). The Covenant changes EVERYTHING.lorojorohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13515905963948470323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1096222976291203462.post-28068923854285310922012-06-23T08:07:41.962-04:002012-06-23T08:07:41.962-04:00I so needed to read these this week. . . Thanks fo...I so needed to read these this week. . . Thanks for posting them!J. Wesley Bushhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00654897196299261673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1096222976291203462.post-12836910722606387352011-10-26T21:34:09.505-04:002011-10-26T21:34:09.505-04:00Me too. I need to sit down and write as opposed to...Me too. I need to sit down and write as opposed to ranting in my head, LOL.The Savagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15906014150752232747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1096222976291203462.post-3431691217866098462011-10-22T17:37:49.727-04:002011-10-22T17:37:49.727-04:00(I miss you blogging. . .)(I miss you blogging. . .)TulipGirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10491713586488210547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1096222976291203462.post-23633963383594750692010-12-10T17:51:20.272-05:002010-12-10T17:51:20.272-05:00@CA--Of course! The originator of the comment (Kat...@CA--Of course! The originator of the comment (KatieKind) reposted it on her blog too back in <a href="http://katiekind.wordpress.com/2010/07/18/grace-ful-parenting-of-toddlers/" rel="nofollow">July</a>. You're welcome to link to either. She's been there & has an "empty nest" now--AND a good relationship with her adult children--just the kind of lady I like getting advice from. :-)The Savagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15906014150752232747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1096222976291203462.post-46193633362905559752010-12-10T09:37:45.387-05:002010-12-10T09:37:45.387-05:00I thought I had linked this before but I guess I h...I thought I had linked this before but I guess I haven't, I know I've shared it on fb and with several friends. Could I please repost it or link it on my blog (let me know what you prefer)? I need these reminders - even with a preschooler!! ;)CAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06156392607106861890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1096222976291203462.post-30080126595444284062010-08-18T23:48:02.969-04:002010-08-18T23:48:02.969-04:00Happy happy happy birthday sis!Happy happy happy birthday sis!Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09923525841769939237noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1096222976291203462.post-61738344143486676352010-08-18T16:33:29.584-04:002010-08-18T16:33:29.584-04:00Why thanks sweetie!!!! :blush:Why thanks sweetie!!!! :blush:The Savagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15906014150752232747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1096222976291203462.post-52642721335664520402010-07-20T09:10:12.877-04:002010-07-20T09:10:12.877-04:00I'm shamelessly copying this to my blog too. G...I'm shamelessly copying this to my blog too. Great post!Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09923525841769939237noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1096222976291203462.post-6780246918643569682010-07-20T09:06:06.347-04:002010-07-20T09:06:06.347-04:00Oh yeah, I understand what you mean! ITA!
Can...Oh yeah, I understand what you mean! ITA!<br /><br />Can't wait to see you guys! Woot!<br /><br />xoxoxoxoxLisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09923525841769939237noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1096222976291203462.post-80795391778907900002010-07-20T01:29:38.055-04:002010-07-20T01:29:38.055-04:00What are you doing still up?!?!
I didn't re...What are you doing still up?!?! <br /><br />I didn't really take offense at your comment ('tho it probably sounds like I did). I just get so weary of the implications (IRL and on the 'Net) that the only "proper and Godly" way to discipline-- especially young children--is to spank early and spank often. Not all of us have the temperaments to follow that advice judiciously... Besides, we're also told not to exasperate our children!! ;-)<br /><br />Off to bed with both of us!!! See ya soon! (Yeah!!) <br />Love & hugs in the meanwhile! :-)The Savagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15906014150752232747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1096222976291203462.post-65989621199325140782010-07-20T00:48:41.600-04:002010-07-20T00:48:41.600-04:00Well, I don't know what GOYB parenting ot ezzo...Well, I don't know what GOYB parenting ot ezzo is, but I di know whst the Bible says, and see nothing wrong with "thus saith the Lord"vwhen it IS something He said. :)<br /><br />However.... and here is where most young parents are NOT rightfully advised... spanking, though sometimes necessary, is not the only tool in raising children, as you mentioned, and there needs to be a balance. As parents, we need wisdom. There certainly is not any one thing that will work with all children. Also, not everyone's parenting style is the same. My caution was to just to be sure to hold ANY information up to God's Word, whether it be from a book, a website, or a well meaning SIL who is up WAY past her bedtime. :-*Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09923525841769939237noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1096222976291203462.post-8725696923372317882010-07-19T03:18:26.150-04:002010-07-19T03:18:26.150-04:00KK--Of course it's OK with me!! :-) They'r...KK--Of course it's OK with me!! :-) They're <i>your</i> words! And wise ones too... Nothing like the voice of experience. Thanks again for taking the time to lend your wisdom!! <br /><br />The Lord knew how much I needed it then, and how much I need it now. Your words have ministered grace to me as a mom of toddlers; now, Lord willing, I can use them to go minister grace to the toddlers themselves! :-)The Savagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15906014150752232747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1096222976291203462.post-61512620366417812972010-07-18T22:17:58.250-04:002010-07-18T22:17:58.250-04:00This makes me grin. So glad you "gave in&quo...This makes me grin. So glad you "gave in" and discovered what worked for your family! That is exactly the path my story took as well. Love it. Thank you for writing it up for us!Megan@SortaCrunchyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17202909752129884370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1096222976291203462.post-73943645000948103172010-07-18T02:12:41.239-04:002010-07-18T02:12:41.239-04:00Oh Mel--how heartwarming to see that these thought...Oh Mel--how heartwarming to see that these thoughts were an encouragement to you! I do still like these thoughts so I am going to repost on my blog if it's ok with you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1096222976291203462.post-43976558662696627372010-07-18T00:04:14.844-04:002010-07-18T00:04:14.844-04:00"Are we so hung up on our ST of "man bor..."Are we so hung up on our ST of "man born as a sinner" that we miss the bigger over-arching BT of man created in God's image, children called blessings, and little ones *never* denigrated in Scriptures?"<br /><br />^ Well said. <br /><br /><br />I think the theology you're surrounded by (and we were immersed in for 30+ years) has a very small view of God and the Gospel BECAUSE it has a correspondingly incorrect understanding of the sin nature and of creation in general. <br /><br />You gotta read through Wolters' <i>Creation Regained</i> sometime. It's quite short.... it will give you lots of good food for thought.<br /><br />the Creation--Fall--Redemption paradigm is the foundation for EVERYTHING.lorojorohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13515905963948470323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1096222976291203462.post-78103258216353382852010-07-17T23:50:00.046-04:002010-07-17T23:50:00.046-04:00Best thing I've read all week. For reals. Love...Best thing I've read all week. For reals. Love "vipers in diapers" way of encapsulating this attitude.... need to chew on this post a while.lorojorohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13515905963948470323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1096222976291203462.post-14074222897912717612010-07-17T23:45:05.793-04:002010-07-17T23:45:05.793-04:00ohmyword, that is an incredible (re)post! I really...ohmyword, that is an incredible (re)post! I really appreciated her thoughts and especially the underlying understanding of human nature in all of its weaknesses.<br /><br />Favorite line: We SIN because our bent is to answer a basic need the wrong way. <br /><br />Toddlers scare the poo out of me, but I realize that many adults are terrified of teenagers (whom I find delightful despite their own immaturity). Everything she said in regards to toddlers is just as true for teens, just you're dealing with different (wrong) expressions of basic needs. They "misbehave" most of the time because they're hungry, tired, stressed, overworked, worried, whatever. Same sin nature. ;-)<br /><br />People aren't objects. I wish we would all stop talking about parenting (or mentoring) "plans" and start focusing on Jesus, the lover of our souls and Savior of our children. This is a great post.lorojorohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13515905963948470323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1096222976291203462.post-22544069866897300532010-07-17T11:46:31.604-04:002010-07-17T11:46:31.604-04:00That thing is AMAZING! I do not hand quilt. Blec...That thing is AMAZING! I do not hand quilt. Blech. But that is beautiful. Way to go!Georgiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12320244695341458176noreply@blogger.com