tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1096222976291203462.post3653248623124799204..comments2023-04-01T10:51:43.447-04:00Comments on The Savage's Lair: Blood PressureThe Savagehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15906014150752232747noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1096222976291203462.post-25807267050397916092008-07-30T09:35:00.000-04:002008-07-30T09:35:00.000-04:00Well, you know, the scarey thing is that I can fol...Well, you know, the scarey thing is that I can follow your unlinear line of reasoning. Maybe it is because we are related, or maybe because we are both expecting. Either way I'm glad you found the quote an hope it helped your blood pressure. ;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1096222976291203462.post-56410887375198400352008-07-19T04:12:00.000-04:002008-07-19T04:12:00.000-04:00AK Mommy,Of all the book recommendations I've read...AK Mommy,<BR/><BR/>Of all the book recommendations I've read relating to "gentle parenting" Clarkson gets the most votes. Hands down. Therefore he's been short-listed on my "add to the next book order" list. :-)The Savagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15906014150752232747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1096222976291203462.post-48753866658560063722008-07-16T17:29:00.000-04:002008-07-16T17:29:00.000-04:00I'm currently reading through Clay Clarkson's book...I'm currently reading through Clay Clarkson's book Heartfelt Discipline: The Gentle Art of Training and Guiding Your Child. It seems to fit together in many ways with Grace Based Parenting by Kimmel. Clarkson is a "no spanker" (now) from what I can tell; there's alot about relationship and "hands around" discipline instead of "hands on the hiney" type. =) BTW my little ones are 4, 2, and #3 due in October, so we're close in the parenting realm. God bless.alaskamommyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13578563903604968668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1096222976291203462.post-85752709265554297402008-07-15T08:28:00.000-04:002008-07-15T08:28:00.000-04:00Katie,You're so right. This tit-for-tat mentality ...Katie,<BR/><BR/>You're so right. This tit-for-tat mentality is so ingrained. But isn't that what Romans 4:4 is talking about when it says <I>Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt</I>.?! If we're working for it, it's NOT grace!!<BR/><BR/>I hadn't thought of the parable of the vineyard in light of the grace discussion. Good application!! Thank you! :)<BR/><BR/><BR/>Joy,<BR/><BR/>You've got littles not far off the ages of mine... any other "parenting with grace" books to recommend?!?! :DThe Savagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15906014150752232747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1096222976291203462.post-73334432764012900072008-07-10T21:29:00.000-04:002008-07-10T21:29:00.000-04:00hmmm...You mean I can get more?*smiles*Oh gracious...hmmm...<BR/>You mean I can get more?<BR/>*smiles*<BR/><BR/>Oh gracious. I agree with you, it totally bugs my blood pressure too. If it makes you two feel any better, DH and I have been on a similar search through the bible about grace. And we do like Tim Kimmel's <I>Grace Based Parenting</I>... lots to think about and take back and evaulate against Scripture...Joyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15689214899795120169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1096222976291203462.post-23671975506335041132008-07-03T10:03:00.000-04:002008-07-03T10:03:00.000-04:00Congratulations on your new baby dragon! Also I l...Congratulations on your new baby dragon! Also I like the new blog format.<BR/><BR/>That definition of grace that you're wrestling with would bother me too. It's hard to spot those kinds of things at first, they have such an air of being right. But I think that's because everything in the world works that way: tit for tat. You work hard, you get paid. You go to college, you get a good job. You scratch my back, I'll scratch yours. You be a good girl, mommy will buy you a treat. <BR/><BR/>And then there's God's grace to us in Jesus Christ which is not that sort of thing at all. Think of the parable of the workers being paid equally whether they worked hard in the vinyard all day, or just for a few hours or NOT AT ALL. I think that's probably what is meant by giving grace to the humble...the last people to show up on the job had nothing on their timecards....and they got paid anyway.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1096222976291203462.post-66473035379964975182008-07-02T12:01:00.000-04:002008-07-02T12:01:00.000-04:00Hey QK,That quotation is technically attributable ...Hey QK,<BR/><BR/>That quotation is technically attributable to Bill Gothard and IBLP. Page 6 of the "big red book" states: <BR/><BR/><I><B>1. THE BENEFIT OF GETTING MORE "GRACE" FROM GOD</B><BR/>The success of our lives is entirely related to how much grace God gives us. Grace is the desire and power to do God's will. (Philippians 2:13)</I><BR/><BR/>When I first heard that definition in the original sermon (the summer before "the claim"), I googled "Grace, God's enabling power to do His will" and came to Rebecca's page <A HREF="http://www.fix.net/~rprewett/BG-grace.html" REL="nofollow">here</A>, where she attributes the quote to Gothard. It took me two more years (not actively looking) to find it in my copy of the "BRB." <BR/><BR/>Naturally, I go look up Philippians 2:13. I mean, I must've missed something, right? Um, nope. Phil. 2:13 states: <I>For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.</I> Doesn't sound the same to me. That is, I don't see the word <I>grace</I> being defined in Phil 2:13. *Must* just be me. <BR/>*rolls eyes*<BR/><BR/>That conception of grace seems to be a popular one in this geographic area. Granted, not all who preach "doing more to get more grace" use Gothard's definition, but the spirit seems to be here. You must *do* to be sanctified. It's pervasive. Everywhere. But then, maybe I'm being hyperbolic. ;-)The Savagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15906014150752232747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1096222976291203462.post-64079276250071228062008-07-02T10:28:00.000-04:002008-07-02T10:28:00.000-04:00I always figured parenting is a marvelous tool of ...I always figured parenting is a marvelous tool of sanctification, but I never thought of a rise in blood pressure that way. ;-) <BR/><BR/>Glad you're putting that Bible degree to good use. heheAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1096222976291203462.post-24526831631823363142008-07-02T08:41:00.000-04:002008-07-02T08:41:00.000-04:00Where? Where is that quotation? I know that sermon...Where? Where is that quotation? I know that sermon, I think. Awful. . . .<BR/><BR/>I totally understand the pregnancy Mother-Earth kind of feeling.QueenKnitterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14601259629886253169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1096222976291203462.post-87367637687708119662008-07-02T06:10:00.000-04:002008-07-02T06:10:00.000-04:00Of course, the fact that the claim was 11 minutes ...Of course, the fact that the claim was 11 minutes into a sermon out of James 4 about how God resists the proud but gives grace to the humble... so we need to humble ourselves so we can get more of God's grace (loose paraphrase)... <BR/><BR/>Let's just say my blood pressure was already on high alert.The Savagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15906014150752232747noreply@blogger.com